From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <5486A704.6090305@cs.ucla.edu> <87k321jj4e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54876F7F.9000607@cs.ucla.edu> <87y4qfj2u9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54889A57.5060905@cs.ucla.edu> <87vbljb9f4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <54889F6D.6060408@cs.ucla.edu> <87r3w7b83a.fsf@wanadoo.es> <5488C710.3000209@cs.ucla.edu> <871to7ayv9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <5488DC0C.2070402@cs.ucla.edu> <837fxyt78a.fsf@gnu.org> <87iohiujcy.fsf@Gertrud.fritz.box> <8761dg1ykk.fsf@Gertrud.fritz.box> <87388jz1ss.fsf@Gertrud.fritz.box> <87oar4x0ac.fsf@Gertrud.fritz.box> <87r3vy17x8.fsf@Gertrud.fritz.box> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419159324 20332 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 10:55:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 11:55:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eAV-0004BG-0s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:55:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37005 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eAU-0005Ly-Gr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46399) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eAR-0005Ls-Eh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eAO-0005nc-TW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:19 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53065) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eAO-0005nX-PX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:16 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2eAN-0004lC-RI; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:55:15 -0500 In-reply-to: <87r3vy17x8.fsf@Gertrud.fritz.box> (message from Achim Gratz on Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:51:31 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180417 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > A braille line has no fonts nor colors. Maybe that means we should not try to represent markup in braille. We never made that a goal. However, we do represent markup on a tty, in Emacs and in the standalone Info reader. I don't want to abandon that functionality (which I use). This is one argument for keeping semantic markup. However, we could still replace Info format with some other format that is more powerful and/or more widely supported, such as HTML-Info. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.