From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 06:24:11 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87wq66ufyt.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zjb04tlw.fsf@gmx.us> <87bnnfve9c.fsf@dod.no> <871to5kt1a.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87y4q8yi4j.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <871tnywkjt.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418901887 21884 80.91.229.3 (18 Dec 2014 11:24:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 11:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kyle.c.andrews@gmail.com, sb@dod.no, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 18 12:24:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1ZCA-00023g-EB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:24:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53453 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1ZC9-0005e5-S1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 06:24:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42793) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1ZBo-0005Xh-8Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 06:24:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1ZBm-0006Sv-3x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 06:24:16 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32881) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1ZBm-0006Sr-1K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 06:24:14 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1ZBj-0002Mu-P7; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 06:24:11 -0500 In-reply-to: <871tnywkjt.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180267 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Consider this snippet.... > @node Abbrevs > @chapter Abbrevs Nodes and sections typically go together but not always. It is true we could make the usual case simpler by changing the defaults. > A defined @dfn{abbrev} is a word which @dfn{expands}, if you insert > it, into some different text. > @menu > * Abbrev Concepts:: Fundamentals of defined abbrevs. > * Defining Abbrevs:: Defining an abbrev, so it will expand when typed. > @end menu This is like the above issue: in the usual case, the node names in the menu can be deduced from the rest of the document, but there are menus which differ from that. However, the second part of each line (the text like "Fundamentals of defined abbrevs") can't be found anywhere else. If it were not for that text, I could envision defining a command @defaultmenu that it would generate the contents of the menu based on the document section structure. But where would it get that added text from? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.