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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 19:25:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Xxm91-0000jQ-Mr@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a92zmnv4.fsf@lifelogs.com> (message from Ted Zlatanov on Sun,  07 Dec 2014 11:22:07 -0500)

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  > I don't know Stefan's motives, but would love to see actual namespaces
  > in Emacs Lisp.

The idea sounds nice in theory, but in practice multiple name spaces
do not fit into Lisp very well.  Common Lisp packages are an unclean
kludge; this was clear to me when I implemented them in the 1980s in
the Lisp Machine.  It is impossible to use them in the way one would
wish to use them.

In practice, you have to write the package prefix whenever you refer
to a symbol that has one.  It might as well be part of the symbol name
itself.  Thus, packages complicate the language definition while
providing no benefit.

So in GNU Emacs I decided to make them part of the symbol name itself
and not have packages.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-08  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-04 23:43 Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05  1:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05  2:42   ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05  3:23     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05  3:32       ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05  4:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05  8:52           ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05 14:40             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 14:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 15:34               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 18:32                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06  9:38                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05  9:54   ` David Kastrup
2014-12-05 14:51     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:12       ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 18:34         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 19:06           ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06  3:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 18:01   ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 19:19     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:54       ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05  5:47 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-12-05 14:49   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:20     ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 19:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:26         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06  0:13           ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06  0:22             ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06  4:09           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-06  9:12             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06 22:24               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07  3:10                 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07  6:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07  7:51                     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07 16:22                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-07 17:40                         ` Namespace macros (was: Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs) Helmut Eller
2014-12-08  0:11                           ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08  7:55                             ` Namespace macros Helmut Eller
2014-12-08  8:36                               ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08  9:17                                 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 11:02                                   ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08 11:21                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08 11:42                                       ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08 11:52                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08 12:52                                     ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 20:59                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08 23:37                                         ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-09  0:25                                         ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-07 18:30                         ` Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Drew Adams
2014-12-08  0:25                         ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2014-12-08  1:21                           ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08  5:34                             ` Drew Adams
2014-12-08 20:59                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08 21:48                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-09 19:35                                   ` namespaces Ivan Shmakov
2014-12-08 20:59                             ` Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Richard Stallman
     [not found]                         ` <<E1Xxm91-0000jQ-Mr@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                           ` <<5484FD09.60603@dancol.org>
     [not found]                             ` <<9ae6762d-a52a-4a06-b2e9-dab893a22d38@default>
     [not found]                               ` <<E1Xy5Os-0004cU-HF@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-12-08 21:17                                 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 16:51                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 17:29                         ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-07 21:17                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 21:26                             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-07 21:32                             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07 21:43                               ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 23:31                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 23:39                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08  2:23                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08  2:24                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08  3:23                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 10:01                                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-12-08 20:35                                         ` David Engster
2014-12-08 21:45                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08  0:18                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08  2:25                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08  2:55                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-07  8:54                 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-07  9:25                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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