From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 04:21:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87wq66ufyt.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zjb04tlw.fsf@gmx.us> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417944250 32550 80.91.229.3 (7 Dec 2014 09:24:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 09:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Rasmus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 07 10:24:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxY4S-0007pM-AL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 10:24:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57469 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxY4R-0002Rs-S7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 04:24:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45013) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxY1j-000763-VL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 04:21:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxY1i-0007VR-Al for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 04:21:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxY1i-0007VH-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 04:21:14 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxY1h-0000iF-8o; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 04:21:13 -0500 In-reply-to: <87zjb04tlw.fsf@gmx.us> (message from Rasmus on Sat, 06 Dec 2014 17:43:07 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179251 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I once looked at the documentation for Org mode, and gave up. It presented > > doing things I didn't find useful. > This is true for everybody. There's plenty of features I don't know > anything about, though I semi-regularly contribute to Org. I think my statement was misunderstood. When I started reading the Org mode manual, everything I saw at the beginning was uninteresting, things I had no wish to do. So I stopped reading it. > > I could consider Org mode as a way of formatting manuals if I saw > > documentation presenting Org mode _as_ a way to format manuals. > > However, it would still have two big drawbacks as a candidate for GNU > > documentation. > > > > * It is a program. What we need is a format. > This claim is simply wrong. What people have proposed, so far, is to use Org mode. That is a program that runs in Emacs. To propose using Org _format_ is a different proposal. We can consider that. > > * The program runs only in Emacs. > Again, your claim is simply false. The syntax is there and can be support > by anybody. Org mode is not a syntax, it is a program written in Emacs Lisp. Other interpreters than org-element.el exists. For instance, > Github supports a subset of the Org-syntax via org-ruby. I think vim even > has some support of Org-syntax. Interesting. I will look at the page that describes Org format. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.