From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bidirectional text and URLs Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:30:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87a93cngwv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837fyfml31.fsf@gnu.org> <874mtio7wh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83r3wml8kq.fsf@gnu.org> <83a938aeuc.fsf@gnu.org> <838uir8huv.fsf@gnu.org> <83388y6rb3.fsf@gnu.org> <83mw7463cz.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417703520 1370 80.91.229.3 (4 Dec 2014 14:32:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 14:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 04 15:31:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwXRi-0004G9-No for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 15:31:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46161 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwXRh-0004Xo-TE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:31:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37101) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwXR4-0004TR-F4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:31:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwXQV-0004hF-ED for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:31:14 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:34779) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwXQV-0004h8-6h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:30:39 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwXQT-0006Ku-Tg; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:30:38 -0500 In-reply-to: <83mw7463cz.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 03 Dec 2014 19:38:04 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178823 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > My point is that we should try to narrow down the cases where we issue > a warning, ideally only to those SOME CASES where they can actually be > harmful. I agree that we should do this. But it is also useful to warn users that a buffer contains RTL text when they don't expect any. If the buffer is all RTL text, the user will see that, and none of it will make sense to him anyway. So no warning is needed. But if the buffer is mostly ordinary LTR text, but has a little RTL text in it, the non-bidi user will probably not notice that and could get fooled. That is the case for which I think a warning is useful. But there is no harm in giving the warning in both of these cases. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.