From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bidirectional text and URLs Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 03:39:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87a93cngwv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837fyfml31.fsf@gnu.org> <874mtio7wh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83r3wml8kq.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjb8n6th.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837fyb8htc.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjb65cg6.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417595953 11125 80.91.229.3 (3 Dec 2014 08:39:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 08:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 03 09:39:08 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xw5Sm-0002me-Dz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:39:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40358 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xw5Sm-0001hZ-02 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 03:39:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34572) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xw5Si-0001hK-8C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 03:39:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xw5Sg-0001o4-Ex for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 03:39:04 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xw5Sg-0001o0-Cy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 03:39:02 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xw5Se-0000iK-Hd; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 03:39:00 -0500 In-reply-to: <83zjb65cg6.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 02 Dec 2014 16:54:49 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178715 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > We are miscommunicating. What I said is that the USER can insert > > newlines in order to see what a certain URL looks like, free of > > influence from its surroundings. > In that case, it's not a very good idea, IMO. First, some buffers are > read-only. Second, when the display is sufficiently jumbled by > directional controls, users who are not acquainted with bidi will have > trouble figuring out where to insert the newlines. Even I sometimes > fail to insert them in the correct position. This increases the need to do something else about the problem. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.