From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: vc-state-heuristic is gone Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:17:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141123215659.2CA0C382F79@snark.thyrsus.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416868261 20492 80.91.229.3 (24 Nov 2014 22:31:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 24 23:30:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xt29o-00067Y-AL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:30:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54747 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xt29n-0003fr-RS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:30:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47457) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xt29P-0003e6-6u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:30:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xt29N-0006K2-Ta for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:30:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39269) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xt29N-0006Jy-L9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:30:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xt29L-00008n-TR; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:30:28 -0500 In-reply-to: <20141123215659.2CA0C382F79@snark.thyrsus.com> (esr@snark) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178209 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Thus, a brutal and effective simplification: *all caching goes away*. > Affected back ends: SCCS, RCS, CVS, SVN, Bazaar. I've already tested > with RCS and any change in preformance is now so small that a human is > not capable of registering it. What is the caching you plan to eliminate? Is it caching of data in Emacs to represent the state of local disk files? Is it caching of data in local disk files to represent the state of a remote repository? The former, I have no opinion about. The latter would be a disaster for me. The operations that now work locally in a few seconds will take HOURS (until I have a network connection). Have you tested the speed of the operations when your connection to Savannah is going through Tor? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.