From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rant - Emacs mail is not user friendly Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:54:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <871tp4wut1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mw7qvign.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416254056 1231 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2014 19:54:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kelly@prtime.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 17 20:54:09 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XqSNF-0004JL-I8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:54:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49962 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqSNF-00048A-6G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:54:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqSNB-00047t-Aq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:54:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqSNA-0000fT-GP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:54:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51133) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqSNA-0000fO-E1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:54:04 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqSN9-0007Si-Qz; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:54:03 -0500 In-reply-to: <87mw7qvign.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177488 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > (I > agree with you that Emacs that has an attack surface that amounts to > the whole world, and practically, that securing it is too hard to > think about succeeding, but that's not a popular view on this list. > And it's just theory.) We have done substantial work to make Emacs secure against just visiting a malicious file. Has a specific flaw or bug been found? If so, what precisely? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.