From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 23:44:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87d2a54t1m.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <83lhotme1e.fsf@gnu.org> <871tql17uw.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <838uktm9gw.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9zgarvp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83y4srjaot.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3yhiu8c.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3yg9bpu.fsf@gnu.org> <83y4sn83ig.fsf@gnu.org> <87oath276y.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413171899 17144 80.91.229.3 (13 Oct 2014 03:44:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 03:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 13 05:44:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XdWZ3-0004Dx-L4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 05:44:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60029 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdWZ3-0002F0-4S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 23:44:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45077) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdWYz-0002Dp-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 23:44:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdWYy-0003Uv-LK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 23:44:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52954) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdWYy-0003Ur-IQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 23:44:48 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdWYw-00041S-HR; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 23:44:46 -0400 In-reply-to: <87oath276y.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Sun, 12 Oct 2014 07:22:29 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175304 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > What will Emacs do, under this proposal, if the user is asked whether > to keep the original raw bytes and answers NO? > > Abort the operation, I suppose. It's going to be a wagonload of fun if I do emacsclient `git grep -l some-pattern` in order to edit 30 files and Emacs decides to abort and/or ask each time a comment contains a stray latin-1 character. I presume not many of these files will have raw bytes in them if they are in a system that is being properly maintained. But it occurs to me that there could be another option to offer users on such occasions: to convert the raw bytes to Unicode characters assuming that they were meant to be Latin-N (the user can pick the N). -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.