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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: POP3 password in plaintext?
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:54:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1XZJPv-0003OC-23@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sij8ical.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Wed, 01 Oct 2014 07:33:54 +0200)

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    Transparent STARTTLS on demand would seem useless against
    man-in-the-middle attacks.  It's just good against eavesdropping on
    unintercepted traffic.  And you don't even need to be true
    man-in-the-middle: you just need to be faster answering the STARTTLS
    negotiation.

Are other protocols for fetching mail better
in security?

David Caldwell <david@porkrind.org> wrote:

    Modern POP/IMAP clients tend to have a checkbox or a setting to require
    SSL/TLS when connecting. If the protocol doesn't start TLS (and isn't
    connected to an SSL port) then it is considered a connection error. This
    setting is configured up-front, at the same time that the user
    configures the server name and port. In this day and age it might make
    sense to have such a checkbox default to "on".

That makes sense -- if STARTTLS in POP3 is fundamentally adequate.
But if Kastrup is right, that isn't so.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-01 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-29 20:49 POP3 password in plaintext? Richard Stallman
2014-09-30  1:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-30 13:31   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-30 19:23   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-01  4:00     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-01  5:33       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-01 12:54         ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2014-10-01 13:15           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-01 17:56         ` David Caldwell
2014-10-01  5:42       ` David Caldwell
2014-10-01 13:22       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-02  1:58         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-02 17:04           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-03 10:54             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-01 13:48       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-01 14:02         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-01 14:37           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-01 23:29           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-30 14:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-09-30 19:25   ` Richard Stallman

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