From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: python.el changes in emacs-24 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:49:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <53CE0AF1.7060602@online.de> <53CFCA3B.1010904@cs.ucla.edu> <87wqb3zwid.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87r41bob3h.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k373zbup.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406216962 12033 80.91.229.3 (24 Jul 2014 15:49:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 17:49:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XALGb-0007D5-6X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:49:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50574 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XALGa-0007Yw-Ru for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:49:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38181) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XALGX-0007YO-4C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:49:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XALGW-0007Eq-0a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:49:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42034) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XALGV-0007Em-TY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:49:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XALGP-0002TT-AU; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:49:01 -0400 In-reply-to: <87k373zbup.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Thu, 24 Jul 2014 05:15:10 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173122 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] The main difference in philosophy is that the Open Software Movement indeed believes that Free Software was lacking the right buzzphrase for selling the Four Software Freedoms. That was true in the case of Bruce Perens, who described "open source" as a "marketing campaign for free software". However, the other founders of "open source" didn't care about freedom and regarded this as an opportunity to dump ethics and justice entirely. See http://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html. The Free Software movement is not focused on providing the catchiest rallying cry. That's what the Open Source Movement considers important. Actually, we do look for catchy rallying cries provided the cause they rally people to is our cause. I've tried many of them over the years. What we avoid doing is weakening the cause in order to "gain support". -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.