From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:06:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r47bi1e5.fsf@yandex.ru> <52F96284.50507@yandex.ru> <52FAE12B.6060101@yandex.ru> <52FC3BEE.60604@yandex.ru> <52FCD2B4.5080006@yandex.ru> <52FD9F1D.50205@yandex.ru> <83mwhucg1h.fsf@gnu.org> <878ute589i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d2iqc84m.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqgxkcr9.fsf@yandex.ru> <834n41db0d.fsf@gnu.org> <52FE2985.4070703@yandex.ru> <831tz5daes.fsf@gnu.org> <8738jlohd6.fsf@yandex.ru> <83txc1bl83.fsf@gnu.org> <5300189A.9090208@yandex.ru> <83wqgv9fbj.fsf@gnu.org> <20140216180712.236069f6@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <83sirj9cyp.fsf@gnu.org> <20140217203145.71a849f7@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <837g8t8ouc.fsf@gnu.org> <20140219080524.25689b6b@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <83k3cr58o2.fsf@gnu.org> <530BAEE5.9040004@online.de> <87ppmatkpe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1393524392 18718 80.91.229.3 (27 Feb 2014 18:06:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 27 19:06:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WJ5M0-0003hl-DQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:06:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47319 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJ5Lz-0003X0-UE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:06:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35295) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJ5Lw-0003SE-CR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:06:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJ5Lv-0006wc-CG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:06:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41818) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJ5Lv-0006wN-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:06:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJ5Lu-0002Sd-FM; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:06:34 -0500 In-reply-to: <87ppmatkpe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169907 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > This is because LLVM does not try to defend users' freedom at all. Of course it does. It gives them the choice of using excellent free software. You have misinterpreted my statement. LLVM is free software, but it does not defend users' freedom because only copyleft does that. Remember that my statement was made in a specific context: LLVM's practices regarding copyright assignment. Since they do not maintain a copyleft, they also don't take the steps necessary to uphold the copyleft. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.