From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 07:10:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <877gact76s.fsf@gnu.org> <34c8c13b-c5c6-4e5a-9248-b09d5d1936da@default> <87eh4hkq6c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83y52dk82n.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390133423 20113 80.91.229.3 (19 Jan 2014 12:10:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, per@starback.se, dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 19 13:10:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W4rCx-0000l1-4S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:10:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45863 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4rCw-0004za-KO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 07:10:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60929) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4rCs-0004zV-2m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 07:10:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4rCr-0002tc-84 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 07:10:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4rCr-0002tY-0Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 07:10:25 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4rCo-0001Cc-Pl; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 07:10:22 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Lennart Borgman on Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:48:56 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168731 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] There could be a setup of Emacs that is as easy as any editor to learn. It is the advanced features that will take time to learn. I guess that we are really discussing is if there is an advantage of such a setup. We could make an incompatible "simple" interface for Emacs and make it easy to learn. It could look just like gedit, perhaps. It might be better, overall, if gedit were implemented as such an interface to Emacs. I am not sure it would have been less work, though. However, if you change it that much, it won't give people an easy pathway to using Emacs. Its commands would be all different. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.