From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:37:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: <877gact76s.fsf@gnu.org> <34c8c13b-c5c6-4e5a-9248-b09d5d1936da@default> <87eh4hkq6c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389364634 11060 80.91.229.3 (10 Jan 2014 14:37:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 14:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 10 15:37:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1dD9-0000XC-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:37:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57242 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1dD8-00082l-Jm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:37:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46339) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1dD5-00082f-GW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:37:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1dCz-0001TS-IK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:37:19 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39792) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1dCz-0001T8-99 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:37:13 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1dCy-00081V-Dc; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:37:12 -0500 In-reply-to: <87eh4hkq6c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Thu, 09 Jan 2014 18:42:19 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168007 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Emacs is never going to be as easy to learn as simple editors, because ease of learning is not its priority. The priority is effective editing for people willing to learn. We won't sacrifice that goal for ease of learning. However, when we can make Emacs easier to learn at the cost of only _development work_, with no sacrifice in the principal goal, why not do it? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.