From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:41:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <3096922F-ACE6-4D70-BDB9-F6110FF8C62A@gmail.com> <87a9f7poq0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389152517 12856 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2014 03:41:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 03:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 08 04:42:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0k1r-0004hp-5G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 04:42:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44726 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0k1q-0000iL-QX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:42:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0k1m-0000fY-Uk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:41:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0k1m-000207-4s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:41:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55162) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0k1m-000201-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:41:58 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0k1l-00061t-Ac; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:41:57 -0500 In-reply-to: <87a9f7poq0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:37:59 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167699 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Emacs _is_ one of the old great ones. You are trying to make Gandalf more popular by plucking his nose hairs. It's not a good analogy. People can like Gandalf as a character without having to learn lots of incantations. Learning Emacs is never going to be easy. But we might be able to change Emacs so that learning it is a little less hard, and that would be a substantial improvement. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.