From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul [was: mykie.el] Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87bnzshlo5.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87bnzshlo5.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <20140103.200846.1574807089640559527.cokesboy@gmail.com> <87a9f8g22x.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <76f5b9cd-3452-4189-b3a0-30dc55a3ee55@default> <87wqic65kj.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389113590 11001 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2014 16:53:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 07 17:53:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Ztz-0001e1-Uc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:53:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41666 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Ztz-0008IP-G8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41407) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Ztv-0008Hb-7N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Ztq-0008Kf-FT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35584) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Ztq-0008Kb-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:06 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Zto-0000A5-VX; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:53:05 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:29:51 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167626 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] So? GNU Emacs is not responsible for whatever it might be that those repos have or do. We are not looking for excuses to be irresponsible, so we will maintain control over what code GNU Emacs recommends to users. We will therefore not recommend repositories that are maintained outside of the GNU Project. Mentioning a repository constitutes recommending it. When you buy a Samsung TV and it comes enabled for use by Netflix (provided you subscribe), does that make Samsung responsible for something that Netflix might offer? This example is cogent, because the Netflix app is nonfree software: immoral and unjust. Even nastier, it implements DRM. To distribute that is wrong, and even recommending it is wrong. How can we make sure we don't recommend an Emacs library to run Netflix (perhaps by fork and exec)? By maintaining control over what we recommend. There are various reasons we might not want to recommend something, so we will make we sure remain in a position to decide. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.