From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Apologia for bzr Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:37:16 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20140102211452.GA28685@c3po> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388759835 12618 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2014 14:37:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 14:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, kfogel@red-bean.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Toby Cubitt Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 03 15:37:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz5sI-0002GP-FV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:37:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50152 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz5sI-0005cm-2m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:37:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49881) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz5sF-0005ax-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:37:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz5sD-0005bY-T5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:37:18 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz5sD-0005bH-Pr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:37:17 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz5sC-0003tu-Sx; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:37:16 -0500 In-reply-to: <20140102211452.GA28685@c3po> (message from Toby Cubitt on Thu, 2 Jan 2014 21:14:52 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167168 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] This is the Emacs mailing list I'm on, right? Emacs of "find" a file to open it, files live in "buffers", "windows" aren't windows but "frames" are, "kill" to cut and "yank" to paste fame? ;-) Emacs did these things first, and our terminology came first. If you wish to complain about the use of incompatible terminology by other systems inconvenient, you need to send your complaints to their developers. The same could be said of most unix man pages. Good man pages aren't supposed to be tutorials. That's true. That's the job of a real manual. Still, man pages should be comprehensible. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.