From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: SHA, MD, and openssl Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:31:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83mwkbyw6v.fsf@gnu.org> <52A4DE34.7060407@cs.ucla.edu> <874n6h3238.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386685901 26117 80.91.229.3 (10 Dec 2013 14:31:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 10 15:31:46 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VqOLe-0007II-Us for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:31:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49384 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqOLe-00019g-J8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:31:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44704) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqOLa-00019X-Cq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:31:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqOLZ-0004qX-8E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:31:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57099) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqOLZ-0004qT-5P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:31:37 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqOLX-0000Rt-Eg; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:31:35 -0500 In-reply-to: <874n6h3238.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166259 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Do users ever install these libraries separately from the major > system components? I have to ask, does this question make sense any more? Of course it makes sense. And it has to be asked, because this is the condition that the GPL's rule depends on. Can we argue that OpenSSL normally accompanies Linux? It seems like a stretch. Does Android include OpenSSL? What about the Busybox/Linux system used in many embedded devices, does that contain OpenSSL? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.