From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:48:11 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8761ra7uq3.fsf@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386272890 22598 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2013 19:48:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 19:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 05 20:48:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VoeuH-0003CT-Kv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 20:48:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55406 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoeuH-00061o-2z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:48:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38721) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoeuC-00061i-UF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:48:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoeuB-0004yM-L2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:48:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40650) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoeuB-0004xx-HE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:48:11 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoeuB-0002Pv-2L; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:48:11 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Tom on Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:15:37 +0000 (UTC)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166136 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] People don't have to use Google Docs. The web form is a regular HTML form which works without Javascript, so users can submit their data without JS and no login is required either to submit the form. This is ok to ask people to use. I have to use Google web services for my work anyway, so I can export the data as text from the spreadsheet when enough data is received and then make the resulting CSV file available somewhere. It still bothers me in spirit, but I won't argue against it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.