From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] frame.c: focus hooks Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 01:02:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384840921 3940 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2013 06:02:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 06:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bozhidar@batsov.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Brian Jenkins Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 19 07:02:07 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VieNy-0007Pk-Jm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:02:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47238 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VieNy-0001eh-6i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 01:02:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47029) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VieNu-0001be-Ej for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 01:02:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VieNs-0000Yh-TV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 01:02:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VieNs-0000Yd-Pt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 01:02:00 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VieNs-0001wg-Cr; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 01:02:00 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Brian Jenkins on Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:49:39 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165352 Archived-At: [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. There is a large class of programmers (web developers) who expect their editor to *be able* to behave this way. True, they will need to take responsibility not to break their environments by abusing these hooks, but Emacs already requires a degree of responsibility from those configuring it. Are you assuming that these hooks won't be used by any Lisp packages? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.