From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384800282 3081 80.91.229.3 (18 Nov 2013 18:44:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 18 19:44:48 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToV-0004fW-7U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:44:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45428 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToU-0007so-Pj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44437) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToQ-0007po-Pd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToP-00072f-Hq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToP-00072T-F4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToO-0005LE-Sx; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:40 -0500 In-reply-to: <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165334 Archived-At: [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. The issue is that most people want something like LibreOffice so that they can do what other people do with Microsoft Word, including exchange files. That level of compatibility is a boatload of work. Yup. But that is what is needed. So I suspect that (a) the number of people who want this and (b) the number of actual use-cases are quite small. Perhaps most current Emacs users use TeX when they want to format something. I use TeX to write a manual, and also when I want to send a nicely formatted letter; but I wish I could do the latter WYSIWYG in Emacs. But there are so many people who don't use Emacs or TeX. They use WYSIWYG word processors only. I wish we could make Emacs easy for them to use, so they could get the benefit of Emacs's other advantages while doing their word processing. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.