From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8761rrigqe.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384800281 3069 80.91.229.3 (18 Nov 2013 18:44:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 18 19:44:47 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToV-0004fX-C5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:44:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45429 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToU-0007tB-SJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44330) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToH-0007e2-1n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToF-0006yf-1d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45370) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToE-0006yW-UB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:30 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViToE-0005F4-60; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:44:30 -0500 In-reply-to: <8761rrigqe.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Jambunathan K on Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:48:17 +0530) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165333 Archived-At: [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. > 25 years ago I hoped we would extend Emacs to do WYSIWG word > processing. That is why we added text properties and variable width > fonts. However, more features are still needed to achieve this. > > Could people please start working on the features that are needed? 1. What would you recommend as the backend format? It would be good to support several, including some use of HTML, ODF, and maybe Texinfo. 2. Do you consider Orgmode - a text markup format - as a "Word Processor"? I don't know how to use Org mode, and don't know what it does (it seems to do so many things), but if it displays through Emacs then there are many formatting features that it can't display in a WYSIWYG fashion like Libre Office. 3. Can someone more familiar with internals of Emacs write-up a statement or two on what *specific* features are needed to move towards the "Word Processor" world. It would be useful to make a list of them. Would someone like to? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.