From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Modern conventions for structuring Emacs Lisp libraries Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87hacvn8sm.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380991928 31737 80.91.229.3 (5 Oct 2013 16:52:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 16:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thorsten Jolitz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 05 18:52:13 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5Q-0000F0-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 18:52:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52437 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5Q-0007SO-9E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46310) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5N-0007Rq-UI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5J-0006E1-0r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34803) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5I-0006Dx-TP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSV5I-0003Tl-9K; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:52:04 -0400 In-reply-to: <87hacvn8sm.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Thorsten Jolitz on Sat, 05 Oct 2013 15:31:37 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163883 Archived-At: [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. Our conventions for headings in Lisp code are not sacred. We can change them if that is a good thing to do. However, the transient of such a change is likely to cause some work and trouble for a lot of people. Your proposal for handling the conventional ;;; separator lines makes sense, and I see nothing inherently wrong with it. But this seems to assume our code should wag our conventions. It might be far less work to change Outline mode and Org mode to understand our existing conventions, than to change hundreds of Lisp files (including files we don't maintain). -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.