all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 15029@debbugs.gnu.org, dmol@gmx.com
Subject: bug#15029: 24.3; feature-request: add window-focus-lost-hook
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 12:54:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1V7pxq-0002dK-OE@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8338qjtiva.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:37:29 +0300)

        [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider
        [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,
        [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example.

    >     I think that ship sailed a long time ago.  E.g., moving the mouse
    >     pointer from one frame to another erases the echo area on the former
    >     and displays the same message in the latter.
    > 
    > That happens at a level below Lisp code, so it should not interact
    > with anything.

    It certainly interacts with the display engine, so it does belong to
    the broad class of problems that you are worried about: it makes it
    harder to debug Emacs.

It could make it harder to debug Emacs, but won't make it harder
to debug your own programs.

    In addition, redisplay can potentially run Lisp.

I don't think displaying a message can run Lisp.

However, the main point is that you're making an argument that it's ok
to create a nasty problem because there are other such nasty problems.
I don't think that argument is valid, even aside from whether those
other nasty problems really exist.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
  Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.






  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-09 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-05 20:21 bug#15029: 24.3; feature-request: add window-focus-lost-hook Ivan Baidakou
2013-08-06 23:57 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-07 19:21   ` Richard Stallman
2013-08-08  3:34     ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-08 15:46       ` Richard Stallman
2013-08-08 16:15         ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-09  2:38           ` Richard Stallman
2013-08-09 16:05             ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-09 23:23               ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-17 19:29               ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-19  2:24                 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-08 16:37         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09  2:38           ` Richard Stallman
2013-08-09  7:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 13:54             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 16:56               ` Richard Stallman
2013-08-09 17:43                 ` Jan Djärv
2013-08-09 23:24                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-08-09 18:40                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-08 16:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09  2:38           ` Richard Stallman
2013-08-09  7:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 16:54               ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2013-08-09 18:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 23:24                   ` Richard Stallman

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=E1V7pxq-0002dK-OE@fencepost.gnu.org \
    --to=rms@gnu.org \
    --cc=15029@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=dmol@gmx.com \
    --cc=eliz@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.