From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bootstrap deleted DOC-nnn file Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 10:09:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83vc6rb31c.fsf@gnu.org> <87vc6qdxfe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83sj1ta13i.fsf@gnu.org> <83d2swaom8.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368454167 10443 80.91.229.3 (13 May 2013 14:09:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 14:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, yandros@MIT.EDU, stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 13 16:09:25 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UbtRJ-0008GN-Qy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 16:09:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50681 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbtRJ-0004Yp-9T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 10:09:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52213) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbtRE-0004XN-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 10:09:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbtRD-0000Nr-KK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 10:09:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbtRD-0000Nc-Gw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 10:09:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbtR0-0005Oi-N8; Mon, 13 May 2013 10:09:02 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Sun, 12 May 2013 15:39:59 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159541 Archived-At: Don't you update from bzr whenever you build? If so, sorting your files by time stamp will show you your previous updates, which correspond to your builds. I wrote: Thanks. This shows that my previous update was Mar 28. The bug did not occur in that version. But since the bug seems to have been introduced on Mar 11, maybe I did not actually recompile on Mar 28. Maybe I just updated the sources without recompiling. I can't tell. I could reliably know when I recompiled last, and from which BZR version, if I had the old executables. It is no longer crucial for this bug, since its cause is now known. However, the issue may arise at other times. In the past, I rarely did make bootstrap. A simple recompile nearly always worked. However, the Emacs build system has got a lot more complex, and a simple recompile usually does not work; I am effectively compelled to do a bootstrap instead. I think that is a change for the worse. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call