From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: florian@fsavigny.de (Florian v. Savigny) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Problem with Rmail Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:45:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1364428710.29519.YahooMailNeo@web161602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364467549 22915 80.91.229.3 (28 Mar 2013 10:45:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Albino Biasutti Neto Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 28 11:46:15 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ULALW-0004rl-CA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:46:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39056 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULAL8-0006pl-7P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:45:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULAKs-0006pT-3b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:45:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULAKq-0004BP-C2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:45:34 -0400 Original-Received: from srv4.ns-domain-hosting.de ([178.63.89.203]:40598) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULAKq-0004B5-1X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:45:32 -0400 X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network Original-Received: from bertrandrussell.Speedport_W_723V_1_27_000 (p4FECCFCE.dip.t-dialin.net [79.236.207.206]) by srv4.ns-domain-hosting.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 72A8415DC005; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:45:30 +0100 (CET) In-reply-to: <1364428710.29519.YahooMailNeo@web161602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> (message from Albino Biasutti Neto on Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:58:30 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 178.63.89.203 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89781 Archived-At: Albino, writing/sending and receiving/reading emails are two (even more accurately, four) separate things in Emacs (if you use Rmail, that is). For writing, you use mail-mode (which you invoke by calling M-x mail); for sending, you need to configure a program that sends it - it can be the Emacs library smtpmail.el, which should, however, be replaced by smtpmail-auth.el. But you can also use an external program such as sendmail or procmail. Try:=20 C-h i Emacs m Mail Sending For receiving mail, you equally have a host of options. Emacs itself can download mail from POP hosts (I do not know about IMAP); see Emacs info node 33.19. But you can also use an external program such as fetchmail, which is required to store the mail locally in a spool file, from where rmail in turn will move it to its "inbox". Rmail is only used to read the mail (and sort it and so on). It is invoked by typing M-x rmail, and will read your primary inbox, which must be set in your .emacs configuration file (but there is also a default, which I do not quite remember). When you answer an email from within Rmail ("r" - "rmail-reply"), this in fact pops up a buffer and invokes mail-mode, so this is where the circle closes. As you will have noticed, getting mail and rmail to run can involve a certain amount of tinkering, and also going through the manuals. Also, it is the oldest way to handle mail, and pretty basic in its functionality.=20 (It is curious, by the way, that you can install rmail separately.=20 Normally, it should come as a part of Emacs.) Of course I cannot even guess why you think Rmail is better for *you*, but from my point of view, the advantages are that - you can program your own extensions around it, which I have done quite a lot, and I now rely on them (that is of course something which is possibly with any Emacs library, but in this case I can confirm it is feasible) - you can use etach to strip attachments, which reduces the size of mail files by magnitudes (even though etach is no longer actively maintained, it still works) - you can use more than one mail file (even though this also means some modest amount of programming) If none of these is of particular interest to you, it seems likely to me that other packages would be more covenient. Emacs alone has at least two others (mh and gnus). Hope this helps you a bit further. Best regards, Florian