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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Loading souce Elisp faster
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 06:43:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1U9wT9-0008Ec-H7@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwva9qtdvvl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:40:37 -0500)

    It used to be the case that compiling one's .emacs was silly because it
    provided no measurable speed difference.  But nowadays this is not true
    any more: loading a source Elisp file is significantly slower because it
    goes through load-with-code-conversion.

Is the slowdown due to heuristically recognizing the encoding?

    It'd be easy to fix these to put the "coding:" tag
    at the start.

Is that really necessary?  Loading has to read in the whole file.
Can't we check for a tag at the beginning OR at the end
before trying to heuristically recognize the encoding?

Actually, I thought Emacs already did that.  If it doesn't, it should.

Then all we need is a different default when it is an Elisp file.

    Do we need to support non-utf-8 elisp files? I say we convert all of
    them (those in our control) to utf-8 and be done with it.

We could do this, but we still need to support other people's Lisp code,
so we can't drop support for other coding systems.

Even changing the default might break things for users.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-25 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-25  1:40 Loading souce Elisp faster Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25  1:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25  2:53   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25  2:55     ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25  3:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25  4:35         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-02-25  4:51           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25  5:24         ` Paul Eggert
2013-02-25  6:12           ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-25 15:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-25 18:41             ` Paul Eggert
2013-02-26  7:23               ` Werner LEMBERG
2013-02-26  8:48                 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-02-25  5:47         ` Leo Liu
2013-02-25 16:28         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-02-27  4:18         ` Kenichi Handa
2013-02-27 13:48           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-27 14:50             ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 17:49             ` Werner LEMBERG
2013-02-27 14:28           ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-28 14:10             ` Kenichi Handa
2013-03-01  2:12               ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-02 12:52                 ` Kenichi Handa
2013-03-03  0:35                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-10 15:19                 ` handa
2013-03-11  1:19                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-15 16:20                   ` handa
2013-03-20  8:15                     ` Kenichi Handa
2013-02-25  7:24 ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-25 11:43 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2013-02-25 15:19   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 15:36     ` Drew Adams
2013-02-25 16:09       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 16:31         ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25 18:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 19:20             ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25 20:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 20:57                 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25 21:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 21:57                     ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25 23:59                       ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-26 17:27                         ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-26 21:38                           ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-26 21:43                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-02-26 21:47                               ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-26  4:54           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-02-26  8:29             ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-02-25 21:51     ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-25 23:54       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 15:35   ` Drew Adams
2013-02-25 13:33 ` Kenichi Handa
2013-02-25 13:50   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-25 15:35     ` Drew Adams
2013-02-25 15:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-25 22:39       ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-26  3:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-26 10:44           ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-26 17:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-25 15:35   ` Drew Adams
2013-02-25 16:45 ` David Engster
2013-02-26 12:56   ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-26 16:26     ` David Engster
2013-02-26 20:19       ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-26 21:00         ` David Engster
2013-02-26 21:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-26 21:18             ` David Engster
2013-02-26 22:40               ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-26 22:51               ` David Engster
2013-02-27  0:44                 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27  1:22           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-27  1:56             ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-27 14:28             ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-27 15:21               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-27 17:21                 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-27 18:31             ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-27 18:39               ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 19:28                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-27 22:32                   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-27 18:43               ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-27  4:49           ` Kenichi Handa
2013-02-27 14:27           ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-26 16:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-26 20:19       ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-26 20:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-27  2:22     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-02-25 21:12 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-25 22:47   ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-25 21:17 ` Barry Warsaw
2013-02-26  7:10   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-02-26  7:59 ` Andreas Röhler

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