From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12973: [TRUNCATED MESSAGE 2692 191817] bug#12973: @: overused in manual Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:47:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <50AFCDA1.8020500@cs.ucla.edu> <831ufjtsrb.fsf@gnu.org> <50B06D14.2070104@cs.ucla.edu> <83zk27savf.fsf@gnu.org> <50B16A6A.9000701@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353818854 19764 80.91.229.3 (25 Nov 2012 04:47:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12973@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 25 05:47:42 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TcU85-0001wl-R4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 05:47:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49929 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcU7u-0004hz-TU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:47:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33482) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcU7s-0004hu-DX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:47:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcU7r-0004PX-8n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:47:28 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55250) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcU7r-0004PS-5U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:47:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcU9O-0002hp-42 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:49:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12973 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 12973-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12973.135381892910382 (code B ref 12973); Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12973) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2012 04:48:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37268 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcU9A-0002hP-Kd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:48:49 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:39501) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcU99-0002hI-1w for 12973@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:48:47 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcU7Z-0006bS-CY; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:47:09 -0500 In-reply-to: <50B16A6A.9000701@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:46:34 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67427 Archived-At: > We should correct these style issues for each Emacs release. Our release strategy makes it difficult to fix these style changes now: if we made changes like these, either to the trunk or to the emacs-24 branch, that'd make it harder to merge other emacs-24 changes into the trunk later. I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You seem to be criticizing a specific plan for installing the changes into the Bzr repository. I'm not talking about mechanics like that. I'm saying that someone should edit the manual for style and usage for each release. Precisely when in the release style is a detail that I leave to others, but I would normally do it before making a separate branch for a given release. If it is done after that, the changes should be installed in both the trunk and the branch. While we're on the topic, the Emacs manual has similar problems with "@.". Sometimes it uses "@." when it's not necessary, An unnecessary use of @. is not an error. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call