From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12721: 24.2; package-installed-p behavior on emacs startup Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:19:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1351361991 17580 80.91.229.3 (27 Oct 2012 18:19:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12721-done@debbugs.gnu.org, kostafey@gmail.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 27 20:19:59 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TSAzF-0004CX-JA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:19:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48820 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSAz7-00044p-Kf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:19:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSAz5-00042X-Ic for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:19:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSAz4-00077b-Ji for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:19:47 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54034) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSAz4-00077X-Go for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:19:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TSB1G-00040h-6G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12721 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 12721-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D12721.135136211715403 (code D ref 12721); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12721-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Oct 2012 18:21:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TSB1A-00040O-Rz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:21:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:42951) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TSB19-00040I-FD for 12721-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:21:56 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSAyw-0004jL-4X; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:19:38 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:43:58 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:66119 Archived-At: > `featurep' typically indicates if a particular file has been loaded, > whereas `package-installed-p' indicates whether the package is available > (e.g. can be loaded). > Should it be `package-available-p'? It's probably not worse, but I don't see why it would be better. I guess it depends how clear the current name is. It wasn't clear to me that "installed" means "installed in your system", but maybe most people will understand it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call