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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com, reingold@iit.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The Emacs Calculator and calendar
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 23:49:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1TKhrQ-00051t-63@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5070AB89.4090900@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Sat,  06 Oct 2012 15:07:05 -0700)

    Almost nobody who writes about ancient history specifies dates in the
    calendars that were used at the time.  Instead, people typically use a
    more-modern calendar, and write things like "Caesar was assassinated
    in 44 BC" or "Wu became emperor of all China in 280".

China used neither the Julian calendar nor the Gregorian calendar then,
so there is no argument in favor of using the Julian calendar rather than
the Gregorian calendar when talking about dates in ancient China.

However, all of Europe used the Julian calendar for hundreds of years.
That is where the issue arises most strongly.

Jan 5, 1000 in the Gregorian calendar was Dec 31, 999 in the Julian calendar.
If something happened in Europe on that day, which year do modern historians
say it occured in?  Is there a convention for which calendar should be used
when describing those dates?

    It's true that it's also common practice to use the Julian calendar
    when talking about events that occurred before 1752 in British-contolled
    territory, and to use the Gregorian calendar for later events in that
    territory.  But this is a special case, and it does not generalize well
    elsewhere.

This special case is rather important -- it includes what shortly
thereafter became the US.  I think that is enough reason to support it
as an option.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-07  3:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-05 19:13 The Emacs Calculator and calendar Jay Belanger
2012-10-05 19:24 ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-05 20:51 ` Edward Reingold
2012-10-05 21:14   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-10-06 15:41   ` Richard Stallman
2012-10-06 22:07     ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-07  3:49       ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2012-10-07  6:22         ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-07 17:30           ` Richard Stallman
2012-10-07 18:23             ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-10  3:37               ` Richard Stallman
2012-10-07  6:36       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-07  7:50         ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-07  8:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-07 13:01             ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-10-07 14:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-07 17:30           ` Richard Stallman
2012-10-07 17:57             ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-10-07 21:55         ` Sam Steingold
2012-10-08 13:39           ` Richard Stallman
2012-10-07  8:17       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-07  7:56     ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-07  8:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-07 13:57         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-07 20:32           ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-07 21:34             ` Tim Cross
2012-10-08  0:32             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-08  6:30               ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-08  7:28                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-10-08 13:56                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-08 14:49                     ` Jay Belanger
2012-10-08  8:21                 ` James Cloos
2012-10-08 14:59                 ` Jay Belanger
2012-10-13  6:02                   ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-13 14:05                     ` Jay Belanger
2012-10-08 13:39             ` Richard Stallman
2012-10-08 19:34               ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-08 22:39                 ` Richard Stallman
2012-10-09  6:28                   ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-09 15:47                     ` Richard Stallman
2012-10-09 23:10                       ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-10  2:22                         ` Jay Belanger
2012-10-11 12:09                           ` Jason Rumney
2012-10-12  1:52                             ` Richard Stallman
2012-10-10  3:37                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-10-10 21:42                   ` Christoph Herzog
2012-10-05 21:17 ` Edward Reingold

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