From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:47:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343612859 7123 80.91.229.3 (30 Jul 2012 01:47:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Michael Reilly Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 30 03:47:38 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Svf57-0000ce-Iy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:47:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58803 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Svf56-0001yR-TA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:47:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51955) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Svf54-0001y8-DN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:47:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Svf52-0001Wm-RR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:47:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56251) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Svf52-0001Wd-Nz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:47:32 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Svf52-0005W5-5M; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:47:32 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Paul Michael Reilly on Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:11:55 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151968 Archived-At: > For one thing, I am concerned people might use it in Chrome, which is > nonfree software with a universal back door. If that caught on, it > would be a disaster in terms of our primary goal: giving users > freedom. > People use Emacs every day on Windows, which is nonfree software with a universal back door AND a malevolent management team antithetical to users freedom. So what? I hope you don't think ethical conclusions depend only on the FORM of the situation. There is a difference between an enemy 100 miles away and an enemy outside your door. Using Emacs on a nonfree system is bad, but nothing new. Turning Emacs into an extension for a nonfree browser would be a big change for the worse. We will try to prevent that. The mobile computing paradigm, small computing devices that act as clients to data on servers, is a fact of life for the foreseeable future, It cannot be reconciled with the goals of the free software movement, so our mission includes changing that. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call