From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:58:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343483899 1810 80.91.229.3 (28 Jul 2012 13:58:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Michael Reilly Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 28 15:58:19 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv7X8-0003lz-LE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:58:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52024 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv7X7-0003G8-VV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:58:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51257) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv7X4-0003C3-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:58:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv7Wu-0000CE-2a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:58:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:59275) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv7Wt-0000B7-RH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv7Ws-0004Q2-Tj; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:58:03 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Paul Michael Reilly on Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:47:45 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151935 Archived-At: Someone tell me again why it is a bad idea to develop a Chrome/Chromium (browser or Chrome OS) plugin that is essentially just the basic Emacs bits that we know and love? For one thing, I am concerned people might use it in Chrome, which is nonfree software with a universal back door. If that caught on, it would be a disaster in terms of our primary goal: giving users freedom. The underlying premise is that there are no "desktop" apps available on this imagined system, just web apps and browser plugins. That IS a disaster, in terms of users' freedom. It pushes users into total dependence on servers. We must oppose it, not accept it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call