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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Merten <smerten@oekonux.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using cl in rst.el and elsewhere
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:30:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1SbFZh-00006T-Sg@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13152.1338730902@eskebo.merten-home.homelinux.org> (message from Stefan Merten on Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:41:42 +0200)

    > We are already using CLOS (in the form of EIEIO), so the elisp lib cl.el
    > really has been unfairly treated for such a long time because it was put
    > into emacs too ahead of time and because of rms's dislike of CL (the
						  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    > language).

    Ah, I see. Indeed this whole things really smells a lot like a
    political decision like this.

That is erroneous as well as arrogant and nasty.

Some of my decisions about GNU Emacs are political -- derived from the
political purpose of GNU Emacs and of GNU as a whole.  If you think
that is a bad thing, you may be in the wrong place.

However, my decision not to include the cl functions in the normal
Emacs name space is simply technical.  So is my decision not to make
the CL definition of functions such as `member' the standard
definitions in GNU Emacs.

My technical design decisions are based on my ideas of what is technically
better or worse, as are everyone's technical design decisions.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-03 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-30 13:29 Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository Stefan Merten
2012-04-30 13:37 ` Deniz Dogan
2012-04-30 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-07 20:06   ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-08  1:42     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-29 20:30       ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-30  2:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-30 19:15           ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-31 18:15             ` Glenn Morris
2012-05-31 19:22               ` Leo
2012-06-02 12:16                 ` Wrong direction of C-M-a/e in rst-mode (was: Re: Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository) Stefan Merten
2012-06-03  2:08                   ` Wrong direction of C-M-a/e in rst-mode Leo
2012-06-02 10:05               ` Using cl in rst.el and elsewhere (was: Re: Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository) Stefan Merten
2012-06-02 19:15                 ` Using cl in rst.el and elsewhere Glenn Morris
2012-06-03  3:23                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-03  3:57                     ` Leo
2012-06-02 19:56                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-03  2:21                   ` Leo
2012-06-03  3:12                     ` Miles Bader
2012-06-03 13:41                     ` Stefan Merten
2012-06-03 13:47                       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-06-03 15:15                       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-03 18:30                       ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2012-06-04 13:23                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-05 19:38                     ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-02 16:59 ` Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository Barry Warsaw

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