From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: DVCSes, bug trackers, and GNUness Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:08:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87bomfy8a8.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335442168 29732 80.91.229.3 (26 Apr 2012 12:09:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:09:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jordi =?utf-8?Q?Guti=C3=A9rrez?= Hermoso Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 26 14:09:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SNNVm-0007oc-3P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:09:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59110 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNNVl-00044Z-A2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:09:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43879) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNNVW-0003t3-Lu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:09:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNNVD-0005Zk-HU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:09:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37261) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNNVD-0005ZV-FJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:08:51 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNNV8-0000K7-UI; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:08:47 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Jordi =?utf-8?Q?Guti=C3=A9rrez?= Hermoso on Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:50:49 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150043 Archived-At: Okay, so I'm getting a consistent message that if I want people to prefer Savane over debbugs, I need to first make sure Savane can have an email and SOAP interface. Is this accurate? That may be true. Then it's a GNU project with comparable features to debbugs, The term "a GNU project" seems to be causing misunderstanding. Emacs and Bzr are GNU packages, but Savannah is not a GNU package. It is not a software package at all. Savane is a software package, but it isn't a GNU package. We use it, and I suppose the Savannah hackers help maintain it, but I don't know the details of how that is done or how they relate to other developers of Savane. Glenn reminded us about GNATS. GNATS is a GNU package that was developed in the early 90s. I don't know how it relates to modern-day needs. I will ask its maintainers how it stands. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call