From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: DVCSes, bug trackers, and GNUness Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:01:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335391291 17499 80.91.229.3 (25 Apr 2012 22:01:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jordi =?utf-8?Q?Guti=C3=A9rrez?= Hermoso Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 26 00:01:30 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SNAH7-00069E-Um for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:01:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42288 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNAH7-00064u-Ap for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:01:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51803) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNAH4-00064X-57 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNAH1-0003cG-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:01:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49676) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNAH1-0003cB-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:01:19 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNAGo-00014d-Q6; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:01:07 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Jordi =?utf-8?Q?Guti=C3=A9rrez?= Hermoso on Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:03:50 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150035 Archived-At: Savannah and Bzr are two practical issues with very little in common. You seem to be proposing a very simplistic uniform way of approaching all issues, but that's a misguided goal. > Savannah isn't a package, it's a facility.  So it is a different kind > of issue. I don't understand the distinction. Can you explain? The reason I decided Emacs should use Bzr is to encourage development of Bzr, the software package. Savanna is not a software package. It is a repository service. Savannah is run by overworked volunteers, and each package means a little more work for them. Thus, the number of packages they can host is limited. So even if there were a motive to ask people "please, everyone, use Savannah, not other repository services", it would not be feasible to do it. Users are not a limiting factor for Savannah development. Savannah has plenty of users. So there is no need for us to "send some users to Savannah". I do, but I would like to coerce other people to help me, just like people are being coerced right now to work with bzr Nobody is being coerced to work on Bzr development, and nobody will be coerced to work on Savannah development. But we can try to recruit more people to work on Savannah development. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call