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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Nikodemus Siivola <nikodemus@random-state.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Kickstarter for Emacs
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:38:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1SKwFn-0004nX-48@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADow0CrZw1_QVTkbg4p7YPpotC3MZPFyAPENnVgHs1nmnepj3Q@mail.gmail.com> (message from Nikodemus Siivola on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:58:52 +0300)

    > Is it likely that Emacs development would excite people who happen
    > upon it in such a site?  Or would most of the funds come from people
    > told about the project by the FSF?  I expect the latter.

    Neither. Most successful crowdfunding projects get most of their
    publicity in a viral manner. Most of the funds would come from Emacs
    users who have no contact with FSF, but read about it on some blog
    they follow, on Twitter, Facebook, on a mailing lists, etc -- by their
    someone who has donated and is excited about it.

You may be right, but it does not affect this question.
It is a multiplier on both sides.

If X people find out through our announcements and Y people through
the crowdfunding site, and if each of them directly or indirectly
leads to a total donation of M from themselves and various people they
inform, the total will be M (X + Y).  A large value of M is good, but
the question here is about how X and Y compare.

    I would also /strongly/ suspect that while FSF itself could probably
    run a successful crowdfunding campaign to fund it's activities in
    general, that for a specific software project the more it is about the
    individual developer(s) wanting to implement Their Thing and the less
    it is about FSF, the more chance of success it has.

    Not because some people don't like FSF, but because they want to give
    money to the people who write the code.

Maybe we are miscommunicating.  I am comparing two different ways to
inform people they can give money to developers to write a particular
change.

--
Dr Richard Stallman
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-19 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-18  7:08 Kickstarter for Emacs Tom
2012-04-18  7:50 ` Tom
2012-04-18  8:59   ` Chong Yidong
2012-04-18  9:25     ` Tom
2012-04-18  9:38       ` Vyacheslav Gonakhchyan
2012-04-18  9:43         ` Tom
2012-04-18 10:14           ` Vyacheslav Gonakhchyan
2012-04-18 10:34             ` Tom
2012-04-18 11:00               ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-18 11:20                 ` Tom
2012-04-18 11:39                   ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-18 13:10               ` Tassilo Horn
2012-04-18 13:47                 ` Tom
2012-04-18 14:19                   ` Nikodemus Siivola
2012-04-18 14:57                     ` Tom
2012-04-18 22:09                       ` Phil Hagelberg
2012-04-19 21:02                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-21  0:10                           ` Phil Hagelberg
2012-04-21  2:46                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-23  5:17                               ` Phil Hagelberg
2012-04-23  8:17                                 ` Guile based Elisp faster? (was Re: Kickstarter for Emacs) Thorsten
2012-04-24 11:35                                   ` Guile based Elisp faster? Andy Wingo
2012-04-24 17:46                                     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2012-04-24  2:01                                 ` Kickstarter for Emacs Stefan Monnier
2012-04-25 16:33                                   ` Phil Hagelberg
2012-04-19  0:45                     ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-19  6:23                       ` [PROPOSAL] GSoC-like campaingn for FSF/GNU projects Jambunathan K
2012-04-19 17:54                         ` Bastien
2012-04-19 18:38                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-19 11:58                       ` Kickstarter for Emacs Nikodemus Siivola
2012-04-19 18:38                         ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2012-04-18 14:27                   ` Tassilo Horn
2012-04-18 14:50                     ` Tom
2012-04-23  9:23                     ` Steinar Bang
2012-04-23  9:20                       ` Tassilo Horn
2012-04-19 12:47                   ` Richard Riley
2012-04-18 22:39               ` Bastien
2012-04-18 14:33       ` Eric Schulte
2012-04-19  0:45         ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-19  5:28         ` Tom
2012-04-19  6:05           ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-19 18:38           ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-19 19:04             ` Tom
2012-04-25 19:56     ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2012-04-18 18:25   ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-18 11:25 ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-18 13:34   ` Tom
2012-04-18 16:08 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-04-18 16:24   ` Drew Adams
2012-04-18 18:49   ` Andreas Röhler
2012-04-18 19:04   ` aaditya sood
2012-04-18 19:44     ` Andreas Röhler
2012-04-19  1:50   ` Chong Yidong
2012-04-19  5:13     ` Andreas Röhler
2012-04-19 15:22     ` Rasmus
2012-04-19 16:10     ` Ivan Andrus
2012-04-19 22:07       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-20  7:33         ` Ivan Andrus

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