From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CL package suggestion Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:18:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <27y5qciwgd.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <9lty10iwdr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1334117952 9970 80.91.229.3 (11 Apr 2012 04:19:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ilya_shl@alum.mit.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 11 06:19:11 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SHp1S-00054q-I7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:19:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54548 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHp1R-0008LM-SS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:19:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHp1L-0008L1-SW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:19:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHp1H-0002ve-J7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:19:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:53918) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHp1H-0002vY-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHp16-0003Di-0G; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:18:48 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:28:33 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149590 Archived-At: No: The way to do it is to rename cl.el to cl-.el, change all its definitions to use the "cl-" prefix and then create a new cl.el which only contains defaliases. Yes, that would be the right way. My suggestions for names for the new package are cl-safe, cl-imp (for implementation), or cl-nice (because it is nice to the namespace). > also: should i also add cl- aliases for macro names in CL, for uniformity? That's a good question and I haven't thought much about it. I'm leaning towards the "yes" (e.g. I don't like the current dolist/dotimes situation where those macros are defined in two different ways depending on whether `cl' is loaded or not). I agree. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/