From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#10385: e binding in info-mode Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:38:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <201112272237.pBRMbo8C022896@freefriends.org><62fwftxnbz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org><83fwfsoluz.fsf@gnu.org> <871urckv7k.fsf@mail.jurta.org><962D35497CE84D16B1B5F7AA509BFB59@us.oracle.com><878vljchjo.fsf@mail.jurta.org><76BD385B7317495CAE8E5EBFE545A1BB@us.oracle.com><87d3av9khw.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87ipkn6poj.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1326001486 11791 80.91.229.12 (8 Jan 2012 05:44:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 05:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 08 06:44:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjlYf-0007Y8-8T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 06:44:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56800 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjlYe-00032T-CV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:44:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41883) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjlYc-00032N-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:44:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjlYa-0000dP-Re for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:44:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:51566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjlSo-00086a-3u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:38:38 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjlSm-0005lh-3g; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:38:36 -0500 In-reply-to: (drew.adams@oracle.com) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147475 Archived-At: I have considered Info-edit obsolete ever since we had Texinfo. Info has existed since 1976 or so, in the original Emacs. At that time, Info files were written by hand, and everyone could edit system files on ITS. Thus, Info-edit was useful there. When I implemented info in GNU Emacs, I wrote Info-edit there too. Then I implemented Texinfo to format the Emacs manual. This made Info-edit useless when Texinfo is in use -- which ought to be always. Meanwhile, ordinary users can't edit the installed Info files anyway. So Info-edit is basically useless. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/