From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:58:45 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87aa64ubg9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83boqkr9bp.fsf@gnu.org> <874nwcu17i.fsf@wanadoo.es> <834nwcr6un.fsf@gnu.org> <87vcosskhc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <831urgr2yr.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4zgsh2w.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ipks3zbo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87boqk3q69.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87aa634st8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fwfvsgfv.fsf@wanadoo.es> <877h17scdo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hb0b77nr.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739bvs27m.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lipnqdhy.fsf@wanadoo.es> <4F054B98.6070203@dancol.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325764746 17191 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2012 11:59:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 05 12:58:59 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RilyF-0006mx-1L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:58:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57003 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RilyE-0001Rc-81 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:58:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52759) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rily6-0001RD-Ee for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:58:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rily2-0000Ks-1x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:58:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:46205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rily2-0000Ki-0Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:58:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rily1-0006CB-8i; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:58:45 -0500 In-reply-to: <4F054B98.6070203@dancol.org> (message from Daniel Colascione on Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:04:56 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147333 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:04:56 -0800 > From: Daniel Colascione > CC: Óscar Fuentes , > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Conclusions based on experiences from Windows 2000 should be tossed as > > irrelevant nowadays. Citing this is a good "war story", but has no > > bearing on design decisions for future features. > > It underscores a general principle: ship applications as > self-contained units that don't try to muck with the rest of the > system. I agree. > > So let's forget about Windows 2000; it's irrelevant for this thread, > > if not for any other thread. > > So we can, in fact, ditch ANSI support and use UNICODE everywhere? Unicode is not about Windows 2000; and I did say "for this thread".