From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:41:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87aa68dfao.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ty4fbje8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83ehvjs8t5.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqf3bcom.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83boqns68o.fsf@gnu.org> <87liprazr1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83wr9bqez3.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5tr9dwv.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87k45alwgb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87fwfyltm1.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325508099 26073 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2012 12:41:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 02 13:41:35 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhhCo-0006zQ-T6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:41:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48440 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhhCo-00034L-AX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:41:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37861) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhhCk-000349-0Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:41:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhhCf-0001Ln-8L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:41:29 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:33644) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhhCf-0001Lj-5V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:41:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhhCe-0002DS-AP; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:41:24 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:26:15 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147170 Archived-At: > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:26:15 +0100 > Mail-Copies-To: never > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I hope your wireless connections are encrypted on the network level, > > then (mine are). GnuTLS will encrypt only some of the traffic, but > > not all of it. > > With all the attacks on wifi security being revealed weekly, I would > consider wifi-level encryption a moot point now. You mean, attacks on WPS "encryption"? Or on home networks that let anyone in the neighborhood connect and surf at will? Don't dismiss wifi encryption and security so quickly, just because a bunch of people with unknown interests wrote something in some blog, or because too many people who don't have a clue leave their networks wide open to anyone. > If you don't do end-to-end encryption now (i.e. TLS), and you use > wifi, then it's likely that someone who's really interested can > probably listen in to whatever you're doing on the network. I never said that wifi encryption is a replacement for other encryptions, just that someone who cares about eavesdropping should _also_ have her wifi encrypted.