From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9873: 24.0.90; dired - window changes size when trying to delete more than one file Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:23:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86y5w87bli.fsf@googlemail.com> <86r52079fq.fsf@googlemail.com> <4EA7D13C.8060801@gmx.at> <4EA817C3.4000206@gmx.at> <831utzd2r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4EA92990.7030606@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319711074 29766 80.91.229.12 (27 Oct 2011 10:24:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cschol2112@googlemail.com, lekktu@gmail.com, 9873@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 27 12:24:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJN8H-0002sr-Kv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:24:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54870 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJN8H-0006MA-2u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:24:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40041) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJN8E-0006L1-Px for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:24:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJN8A-0001df-0y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:24:18 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55184) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJN89-0001dW-VF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:24:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJN9t-00030A-LB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:26:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9873 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9873-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9873.131971112011473 (code B ref 9873); Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:26:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9873) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Oct 2011 10:25:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJN9D-0002z0-RD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:25:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10] ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJN9B-0002yt-TA for 9873@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:25:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJN7R-0002Yk-J7; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:23:29 -0400 In-reply-to: <4EA92990.7030606@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:51:12 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:26:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:53199 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:51:12 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > CC: lekktu@gmail.com, cschol2112@googlemail.com, 9873@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Well, how about explaining why this variable was introduced, for > > starters? What problem(s) did its introduction try to solve? > > Its introduction modifies the behavior of splitting, resizing and > deleting windows in the order described in the example in the manual. I understand that it affects resizing (by changing which other window is resized as side effect of changing the size of the window we want to resize), and deleting (by controlling which window will be given the space released by the deleted one). But what is modified in the behavior of splitting? > > Sorry, I don't get the drift. What do you mean by "resizing W"? how > > can one resize "a vertical combination" of 2 or 3 windows, which AFAIU > > is just a node in the window tree, not a live window that is displayed > > on a frame? > > You won't get the drift as long as you insist that an internal window is > "just a node in the window tree". What I mean is that the user have no way of resizing the internal windows, only the live windows, AFAIK. A Lisp program can resize an internal window, but doing so is precisely equivalent to resizing one of the live windows on the same frame (again, AFAIK). When you talk about resizing a live window, I understand exactly what is meant. If by "vertical combination" you mean the internal window that is the parent of 2 or more live windows, I can understand that as well, assuming that you are talking about a Lisp program. If you mean anything else, please explain what I am missing. > > I mean, I can resize W1, W2, or W3, but how do I resize > > their combination? > > By resizing their parent window or a sibling of their parent window. Or > by resizing the containing frame. Or by resizing the minibuffer window. Some of these are unavailable to users. We were talking about a user option.