From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Git mirrors Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:00:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8762k095n4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uuksdxi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lissh32y.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zkh8e286.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87d3e4gttq.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ehyjrhxh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d3e2rfte.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878voqfiaw.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lisq8bu3.fsf@gmail.com> <87pqi2dwds.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hb3e86vi.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318514439 27195 80.91.229.12 (13 Oct 2011 14:00:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Vijay Lakshminarayanan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 13 16:00:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RELpp-0000vN-BG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:00:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35978 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RELpo-0001bR-HW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:00:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58949) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RELpd-0001b4-4P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RELpT-00038O-Ad for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:00:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:37411) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RELpT-00038J-8O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:00:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RELpM-0000ku-B6; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:00:04 -0400 In-reply-to: <87hb3e86vi.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Vijay Lakshminarayanan on Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:49:45 +0530) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145125 Archived-At: Please note that these are /my/ opinions and not those of FSF. I don't represent the FSF in any capacity. I think you explained the issues well, for the most part. But there are actually two separate issues here: free software vs open source, and GNU vs non-GNU. Linux illustrates the difference in philosophy between free software and open source. Torvalds' version of Linux tries to install many nonfree programs, and even contains some (the "binary blobs"). Thus, it isn't all free software. It isn't even all open source. This is not hypocrisy on Torvalds' part, because his "open source" philosophy doesn't say that this is wrong. It is wrong from our point of view, however. This is why we maintain Linux Libre. However, git is a different case. It is entirely free software, as far as I know (please correct me if that isn't so). Thus, we don't criticize it, and we're not against it. Git is simply a rival. We are not against it, but GNU Project activities ought to promote the GNU package for this job. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/