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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should undefined behavior be encouraged in Emacs?
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:55:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1RAuE4-000651-9R@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ipo6rr1y.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:14:01 +0200)

    Undefined behavior is something that is left to the implementation,
    and the programmer who invokes it cannot expect anything in
    particular.

This definition is used in standards development, and presumes that
we're talking about a spec that might have various implementations.
However, Emacs is one specific program, not a spec.  Thus, concepts
from standards development, about the relationship between the spec
and its various implementations, may not transfer naturally.  I don't
see what "undefined behavior" would mean in the case of Emacs.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-04  1:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-03  1:39 Should undefined behavior be encouraged in Emacs? Paul Eggert
2011-10-03  3:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-03  6:39   ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-03  7:29     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-03  8:58       ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-06  2:17         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-06 17:30           ` Richard Stallman
2011-10-06 19:49             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-06 20:08               ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-06 20:12                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-06 20:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-07  5:23                   ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-07  7:44                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-07  7:52                     ` John Wiegley
2011-10-07 17:27                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-07  8:38                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-10-07 15:26                   ` Barry Warsaw
2011-10-07 18:06                     ` ken manheimer
2011-10-07 18:21                       ` Barry Warsaw
2011-10-07 18:46                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-10-07 19:59                         ` ken manheimer
2011-10-07 18:41                     ` Drew Adams
2011-10-08 13:49                   ` Miles Bader
2011-10-08 14:34                     ` Drew Adams
2011-10-03 13:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-03  9:20   ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-10-03  9:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-03  8:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-03  9:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-03 13:13 ` Richard Stallman
2011-10-03 15:15   ` Dave Abrahams
2011-10-04  1:55     ` Richard Stallman
2011-10-04  2:18       ` Dave Abrahams
2011-10-03 16:14   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-03 16:27     ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-03 16:41       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-04  1:55     ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2011-10-03 20:53   ` Paul Eggert
2011-10-03 14:49 ` Dave Abrahams

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