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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: draft for DEL key poll
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:34:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1R8acE-0004Xx-Lj@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r532n6wr.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:52:20 -0400)

    This description fails to explain the underlying logic behind the
    change.

It is not needed.  The purpose of the poll is to ask people like or
dislike, and why.  It isn't supposed to argue in favor of the feature.

    Anyone who argues that DEL ought not to delete a "normal" active region
    should provide a convincing explanation of why DEL should be treated
    differently from other Emacs commands that act on active regions.

DEL is a basic and frequent command, so it should make distinctions as
is convenient for users, including special cases when that's what's
convenient.  Uniformity is not the priority for commands such as this.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-27 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 164+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-26  3:57 Emacs pretest 24.0.90 Chong Yidong
2011-09-26  4:46 ` Leo
2011-09-26 18:43   ` Chong Yidong
2011-09-26 23:21     ` Leo
2011-09-26  7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-26  8:23   ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-26 23:05   ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-09-26 11:12 ` Neal Becker
2011-09-26 11:36   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13  4:50     ` Kevin Rodgers
2011-10-13  8:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-26 16:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-26 17:14   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-26 17:39     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-26 18:50       ` Chong Yidong
2011-09-26 17:07 ` Bastien
2011-09-26 17:26 ` Rasmus
2011-09-26 21:12 ` draft for DEL key poll Richard Stallman
2011-09-26 21:38   ` Karl Fogel
2011-09-26 22:02     ` Kim F. Storm
2011-09-27  6:30       ` Stefan Reichör
2011-09-27 16:34       ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-28 22:48         ` Kim F. Storm
2011-09-29  2:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-30  3:42             ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-27 16:34     ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-26 22:38   ` disable delete-selection-mode? (was: Re: draft for DEL key poll) chad
2011-09-26 23:10     ` disable delete-selection-mode? Glenn Morris
2011-09-27 16:34     ` disable delete-selection-mode? (was: Re: draft for DEL key poll) Richard Stallman
2011-09-27  0:08   ` draft for DEL key poll Juri Linkov
2011-09-27 16:34     ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-27  0:52   ` Chong Yidong
2011-09-27 16:34     ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2011-09-27 18:49     ` James Cloos
2011-09-28  7:54     ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-28  8:26       ` Tassilo Horn
2011-09-28  9:53         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-09-28 17:44       ` chad
2011-09-29 10:49         ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-29 17:56           ` chad
2011-09-29 23:17             ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2011-09-30  0:04               ` chad
2011-09-30 21:03             ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-30 21:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-01  6:03                 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-09-27  0:59   ` Chong Yidong
2011-09-27 16:34     ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-26 23:00 ` Emacs pretest 24.0.90 Ota, Takaaki
2011-09-26 23:58   ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-27  0:30     ` Ota, Takaaki
2011-09-30  3:42 ` Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete Richard Stallman
2011-09-30  8:56   ` Memnon Anon
2011-09-30 11:36   ` Jai Dayal
2011-09-30 15:17   ` Joel James Adamson
2011-10-01 12:54     ` Le Wang
2011-10-03 15:25       ` Joel James Adamson
2011-10-03  5:57   ` Ian Zimmerman
2011-10-03  9:21     ` Tassilo Horn
2011-10-03 15:14       ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-03 20:57         ` Martyn Jago
2011-10-03 17:18       ` Ian Zimmerman
2011-10-03 18:53         ` Tassilo Horn
2011-10-03  7:33   ` Suvayu Ali
2011-10-03 13:18     ` "like other editors" [was: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete] ken
2011-10-03 13:24       ` Jai Dayal
2011-10-03 14:47         ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-03 13:41       ` Suvayu Ali
2011-10-03 15:17         ` ken
2011-10-03 16:02           ` "like other editors" [ Richard Riley
2011-10-03 20:39             ` ken
2011-10-03 15:35         ` "like other editors" [was: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete] Andreas Röhler
2011-10-03 16:01         ` "like other editors" [ Richard Riley
2011-10-03 16:00       ` Richard Riley
2011-10-03 17:45         ` Ian Zimmerman
2011-10-03 19:27           ` Rasmus
2011-10-03 21:30         ` ken
2011-10-03 16:22       ` "like other editors" [was: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete] Jeremiah Dodds
2011-10-04 12:37         ` ken
2011-10-04 22:09           ` S Boucher
2011-10-04 12:44         ` ken
2011-10-04 18:40           ` Jeremiah Dodds
2011-10-04 20:02             ` ken
2011-10-04 20:19               ` Jeremiah Dodds
2011-10-04 21:42                 ` ken
2011-10-04 21:54                   ` Jai Dayal
2011-10-05  0:35                   ` Jeremiah Dodds
2011-10-04  1:54       ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]       ` <mailman.5071.1317713524.939.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-10-04 13:12         ` rusi
2011-10-04 17:27       ` S Boucher
2011-10-05 14:30         ` Richard Stallman
2011-10-05 16:02           ` Rustom Mody
2011-10-05 17:26         ` MBR
2011-10-05 17:51           ` S Boucher
2011-10-04  4:28   ` Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete MBR
2011-10-04  7:33     ` suvayu ali
2011-10-04 14:08       ` MBR
2011-10-04 14:40         ` suvayu ali
2011-10-04 11:39     ` Marko Vojinovic
2011-10-04 13:31       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-04 11:47   ` Jonathan Groll
2011-10-04 13:33     ` Drew Adams
2011-10-04 16:17       ` Ian Zimmerman
2011-10-04 16:36         ` Drew Adams
2011-10-04 17:38   ` S Boucher
2011-10-04 18:29     ` Alan E. Davis
2011-10-04 19:16       ` S Boucher
2011-10-04 19:11   ` Johnny
2011-10-05  1:04   ` Ludwig, Mark
2011-10-06 12:24     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-10-06 19:15   ` Ken Goldman
2011-10-06 19:52     ` Marko Vojinovic
2011-10-18  8:09   ` Steinar Bang
2011-11-13  4:24   ` semperos
2011-10-01  0:22 ` Emacs pretest 24.0.90 Drew Adams
2011-10-03 16:11   ` Drew Adams
2011-10-03 22:56     ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-10-03 23:42       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-03 23:43         ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-10-12 10:18     ` Dani Moncayo
2011-10-12 10:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 11:28         ` Dani Moncayo
2011-10-12 11:37           ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-12 12:07             ` Dani Moncayo
2011-10-12 12:18               ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-12 12:27                 ` Dani Moncayo
2011-10-12 12:29                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-12 12:31                     ` Dani Moncayo
2011-10-12 13:19                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 19:46                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-12 12:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 12:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-12 13:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 12:17           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 12:52         ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-10-12 13:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 14:21         ` Dave Abrahams
2011-10-12 14:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 11:27       ` Dani Moncayo
2011-10-12 13:48       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-12 14:02         ` Dani Moncayo
2011-10-13  1:54         ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-10-13  3:33           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-13  4:04             ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-10-13 16:15             ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-13 22:54               ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-10-15  1:32                 ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-10-13 14:17           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-18 17:15             ` Drew Adams
2011-10-18 23:34               ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-10-18 23:55                 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-13 14:28           ` Dani Moncayo
2011-10-13 14:49             ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-07 19:25 ` nabil-82
2011-10-08  6:20   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-08 16:38     ` nabil-82
2011-10-09  4:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-09 13:02         ` nabil-82
2011-10-09 17:04           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11  1:39       ` Kenichi Handa
2011-10-12 13:04         ` nabil-82
2011-10-12 15:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 16:58             ` nabil-82
2011-10-13  8:55               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-08 21:01     ` Glenn Morris

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