From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLogs in the elpa branch Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:25:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ipofdbka.fsf@gmx.de> <874nzypniu.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317115571 7464 80.91.229.12 (27 Sep 2011 09:26:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bzg@altern.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 27 11:26:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R8TvR-0000pr-MS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:26:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59512 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8TvR-00077Y-4h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:26:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:49435) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8TvJ-00077A-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8TvI-0000ez-FI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:25:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:35437) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8TvI-0000ev-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:25:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8TvE-0004Ig-Vk; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:25:53 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Andreas Schwab on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:57:22 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144388 Archived-At: > From: Andreas Schwab > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:57:22 +0200 > Cc: Michael Albinus , > Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > But editing the commit logs beyond that goes against a principle that > > is somewhat carved in stone: "Don't modify the commit logs history." > > The principle is actually: "Don't modify published history." It is > perfectly ok to edit commits locally until you are happy with them > before publishing them. If your bzr branch is not bound, then your log messages will be invisible anyway after merging to mainline (unless people actually _want_ to see logs from non-mainline history); what matters is the log you write when you merge. If your branch _is_ bound, then there are no local commits. (If you are thinking about "bzr ci --local", then these again look after pushing as non-mainline commits, so this option doesn't change the basic facts.) I suspect that people who care about lack of the ability to edit log messages are talking about the latter situation. So the "you can edit non-published history" stance does not help them.