From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9571: 24.0.50; user option to turn off bidi, please Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:44:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83sjnnqpts.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316807146 17863 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2011 19:45:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9571@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 23 21:45:42 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R7Bgq-0001En-46 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:45:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52158 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R7Bgp-0001uu-Kw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:45:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R7Bgl-0001qg-Uq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:45:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R7Bgk-0002CP-Hr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:45:35 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46338) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R7Bgk-0002CL-Fz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:45:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R7BhC-00066O-6Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:46:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9571 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 9571-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9571.131680710723377 (code B ref 9571); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9571) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2011 19:45:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R7BgI-00064z-UT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R7BgE-00064T-FM for 9571@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:45:03 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R7Bfm-0005PC-7f; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:44:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <83sjnnqpts.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:46:23 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:46:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:51737 Archived-At: What confusion are you referring to? Not being sure about the order, in the buffer, of the characters you see on the screen. Are we talking about a buffer with or without R2L characters? It would have to be a case where characters that have bidi significance are present. If there are none, there is no reordering, thus no possibility it can cause confusion. And how would setting bidi-display-reordering to nil resolve that confusion? You would see all the characters in the order that they appear in the buffer. I don't envision anyone would want to edit this way. But it could be useful to look at this kind of display once in a while. Because the unidirectional display will one day go away, and having a user option will be an obstacle to getting rid of it. Why should it ever be deleted? What is gained by deleting it? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/