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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 9571@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#9571: 24.0.50; user option to turn off bidi, please
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:31:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1R74uj-0002CK-1I@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvboubj3t2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:13:05 -0400)

    "Figure out what's really present" is sufficiently vague that I don't
    know what is the right way to address this need.  find-file-literally is
    at least as likely to be effective, and in many more cases.

find-file-literally disables character set decoding.  That means you'd
have to manually figure out how the bytes correspond to the characters
of the file, or else give a command to decode it.

If the confusion has to do with bidi, the feature you want for
understanding it is to turn off bidi and nothing else.  It has to be
easy to do, so why NOT do it?

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-23 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-22  4:18 bug#9571: 24.0.50; user option to turn off bidi, please Drew Adams
2011-09-22  5:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-22 12:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-22 13:13   ` Drew Adams
2011-09-22 21:44     ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-23  4:13       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-23 12:31         ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2011-09-23 14:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 14:55             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-23 15:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 17:36                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-23 18:23                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-23 19:44             ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-23 20:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-24  3:56           ` Jason Rumney
2011-09-24 12:28             ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-23  9:13       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 12:31         ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-23 14:40           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 19:44             ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-23 19:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-24 12:28                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-24 14:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-24 17:30                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-24 19:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-24 23:52                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-23  4:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-23  8:01       ` Štěpán Němec
2011-09-23  9:21         ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-09-23 10:39           ` Štěpán Němec
2011-09-23 11:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 16:09               ` Drew Adams
2011-09-23 17:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 19:03                   ` Drew Adams
2011-09-23 19:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 21:23                       ` Drew Adams
2011-09-23 23:21                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-09-24  0:32                           ` Drew Adams
2011-09-24  1:13                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-09-24  3:46                               ` Drew Adams
2011-09-24  8:44                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-02-22  2:34                                   ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-24  6:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-24  8:46                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-09-23 20:00                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-23 10:18         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 11:09           ` Štěpán Němec
2011-09-23 11:45             ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-09-23 13:01               ` Štěpán Němec
2011-09-23 15:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 17:46                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-23 18:24                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 19:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-23 11:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-24 12:28               ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-24 14:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-24  3:53 ` Jason Rumney

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