From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `isearch-allow-scroll' - a misnomer and a bad design Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:30:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2F1337889F394491BA778ACA46799812@us.oracle.com> <874o07m3ay.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <87r539c0qx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20110922103506.GA3134@acm.acm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316781076 26033 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2011 12:31:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: md5i@md5i.com, dan.colascione@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dmoncayo@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, yandros@mit.edu, drew.adams@oracle.com To: PJ Weisberg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 23 14:31:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R74uL-0003Mr-79 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:31:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42516 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R74uK-0002vl-N2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:31:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44746) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R74uH-0002vR-52 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R74uG-00076C-6C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:31:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:32943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R74uF-000768-Vj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:31:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R74uB-00023I-41; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:30:59 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from PJ Weisberg on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:23:46 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144226 Archived-At: Are you arguing that isearch non-exiting commands shouldn't exist, or that they shouldn't be able to take a prefix argument? Neither. I am saying that the non-printing characters that are exceptions to the rule should be as few as possible. (The rule is that they exit Isearch and then execute normally.) I think the existing exceptions are already so numerous as to constitute a nuisance. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/