From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `isearch-allow-scroll' - a misnomer and a bad design Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:44:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2F1337889F394491BA778ACA46799812@us.oracle.com> <874o07m3ay.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <87r539c0qx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20110922103506.GA3134@acm.acm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316727892 31624 80.91.229.12 (22 Sep 2011 21:44:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: md5i@md5i.com, dan.colascione@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dmoncayo@gmail.com, stephen@xemacs.org, yandros@mit.edu, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 22 23:44:46 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6r4X-00039k-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:44:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47291 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6r4T-0007s8-Pv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:44:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33877) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6r4Q-0007nB-Vw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:44:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6r4P-0008Ib-Sv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:44:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:51564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6r4P-0008IX-LK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:44:37 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6r4M-0002kQ-RC; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:44:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <20110922103506.GA3134@acm.acm> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:35:06 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144202 Archived-At: > The idea that being in a search is a state that commands "shouldn't > disturb" is the result of thinking of it as a mode. It is normal > for editing commands to stop searching and edit instead. Is scrolling "editing" here? I would have said no, since it doesn't change the buffer and doesn't move point. You're making a distinction I didn't intend, so we are talking past each other. When I said "editing commands" I meant "anything other than inserting text." The rule is that they exit Isearch. There have always been exceptions, but they were few. The more exceptions there are, the harder it is to remember how to use Isearch. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/