From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `isearch-allow-scroll' - a misnomer and a bad design Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:51:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20110911103940.GA3246@acm.acm> <3C4B7E318EB04AE4B7DB9FD0E4C67629@us.oracle.com> <20110911173012.GA3088@acm.acm> <20110912093651.GA3249@acm.acm> <20110913142732.GB3081@acm.acm> <7E2EE144B11D413583E1E659CDE15186@us.oracle.com> <8739g0vyuy.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4E6FF63A.4070604@gmail.com> <2F1337889F394491BA778ACA46799812@us.oracle.com> <874o07m3ay.fsf@maru.md5i.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316616726 25504 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2011 14:52:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: md5i@md5i.com, dan.colascione@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, yandros@mit.edu, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 21 16:51:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6O9W-0004SI-4d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:51:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35493 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6O9V-0000wd-I6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:51:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46712) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6O9L-0000vz-6i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:51:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6O9J-00048K-Cn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:51:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:53035) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6O9J-00048F-85 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:51:45 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6O9I-00075T-BX; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:51:44 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:22:53 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144154 Archived-At: > FWIW: Several people have expressed this idea, with which I agree. > C-u should do nothing by itself (and that includes not exiting > Isearch, of course). Its only effect should be to provide a prefix > argument to the next command, to extend its behavior. I tend to agree. This reasoning is based on thinking of Isearch as a kind of a mode, but that's exactly what we should avoid. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/